This was a tricky episode where we talk about some big genuine issues that affect PHP developers around the world, and we talked a lot about a t-shirt. After Chris Hartjes cheated on his /dev/hell podcast by joining us in Episode 3, Chris' partner in crime Ed "Funkatron" Finkler decided to get revenge and come on the show. Our other guest Miko Federmann is a brilliant PHP and C developer who is a friend of Phil and Ben. She joins us on the show to discuss the recent hullabaloo known as "PHPness Gate" and the obviously connected issue of sexism in the industry.

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