As Konstantin Kudryashov points out in his latest post, a new PHP-related podcast has started up hosted by him and Mathias Verraes called the Elephant in the Room. Their inaugural episode is titled Design is Hard

We decided at the PHPNW13 conference to start a PHP podcast. In our very first podcast episode ever, we discuss the importance of design. And, because we might as well start with a bang, we talk about caching and naming things as well. We’re all over the place.

You can download the full episode from the Elephant in the Room site and get some links to things mentioned in the show.