The /Dev/Hell podcast has released their latest two episodes, one in the usual format recorded prior to the True North PHP conference - Episode 37: Jets vs Sharks - and the other following, Dark Secret Branding.

In episode 37 they talk with Paul Jones of the Solar/Aura projects about "lots of stuff about confusing things like dependency injection and human behavior in tribes".

In the second of the two episodes they talk with Jonathan Snook about Twitter application development, Jonathan's past and more.

You can, of course, listen to either of these via the in-page players or you can download the mp3s directly for offline listening: Episode 37, Dark Secret Branding.