The Elephant in the Room podcast has released their latest episode - Episode #4, "Testing Resistance":

In this episode, Konstantin and Mathias discuss some of the reasons team have trouble getting started with testing. We talk about how frameworks, and especially their documentation, do little to make it easier. But we are to blame as well: the Conference speakers, bloggers, and community leaders, talk about Quality Assurance, but we are inadvertently creating barriers. Instead of helping people, often we make it harder for them to admit to not knowing how to properly test. We discuss the need for finding the smallest testable units, and how kata’s can help you get familiar with the tools. Finally, Everzet gives you some homework.

You can listen to this latest podcast either via the in-page player or by downloading the mp3 for listening offline. If you like what you hear, be sure to subscribe to their feed to get the latest.