The /Dev/Hell podcast, hosted by Chris Hartjes and Ed Finkler, has posted its latest episode - Episode 41: Let Me Wet My Beak. In this new episode they're joined by guest David Rogers.

This week we’re joined by David Rogers, aka @al_the_x, to hear how he’s teaching PHP in college courses for brand-new programers. We also talk about what possessed Ed to develop his own unit testing framework.

You can check out this episode either through the in-page player or by downloading the mp3 of the show. Also, be sure to subscribe to their feed if you like what you hear.