The Full Stack Radio podcast has released their latest episode today - Episode #3: Ruby, PHP, object oriented design, testing and other crap with Matt Machuga, with host Adam Wathan.

In this episode, Adam talks with Matt Machuga of Think Through Math about being a Rubyist who still writes PHP and the differences between writing PHP like a Rubyist vs. writing PHP like a Java developer. They also talk about common struggles when learning new things, and trying to remain pragmatic while still pushing the boundaries of what you know.

Links in the show notes include Matt's personal website, DHH on dependency injection and a book on Domain Driven Design. You can check out this episode either using the downloading the mp3. If you enjoy the episode, be sure to subscribe to their feed.