The /Dev/Hell podcast, hosted by PHP community members Chris Hartjes and Ed Finkler, has posted their latest episode: Episode 78: Who Leaves Velveeta and No Beer in a Fridge?.

It’s rare that we have some folks who work for the same employer back-to-back on the show, but this time out we spoke with Jessica Rose. Jessica is Tracy Osborne’s boss (Tracy was on the show in Episode 77) and talked about her own experiences creating a different kind of developer relations team at Dream Factory.

Along the way we found out how much better Chris handled jet lag at the same Australian conference Jessica was at and how thankful she is her husband pays zero attention to Twitter.

You can listen to this latest episode either through the in-page audio player or by downloading the mp3 directly. If you enjoy the show be sure to subscribe to their feed too and get the latest updates as new shows are released.