The /Dev/Hell podcast, hosted by Chris Hartjes and Ed Finkler, has posted their latest episode today - Episode #86: Necromantic Spies and Imagined Corporate Friends:

Welcome to the very first episode of 2017! We’re back after a nice break for the holidays and ready to get back to being insightful and unfiltered. In this episode we talked about the concept of “programming as craft” with Chris and Ed having a great discussion about what should follow after the phrase “programmers need to learn empathy.”

Ed also released some music, and is donating all the proceeds to OSMI. Chris was sad that he did not get the opportunity to re-record the vocal tracks from some of Ed’s older material in his own signature vocal style. Chris also talked (not so briefly) about the new laptop he bought and the security measures he decided to take with it.

You can listen to this latest episode either using the in-page player or by downloading the mp3 directly. If you enjoy the show be sure to subscribe to their feed and follow them on Twitter for updates on when new shows are released.